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Greeting from the Rohners:
The reasons we have created this site is to 1) correct the record as to our involvement
with the Papp Engine, 2) verify and attest to what we observed, and 3) decide what
should be done. Much of what we have to say can be easily understood or verified by
viewing the collection of short videos on the following page. Other items can be verified
through the open or classified data pages.
The claims of having built and operated these engines by others are out and out lies. All
engines you see running on anybody's videos were built right here at Rohner Machine
by myself and my brothers Tom and John. I challenge anyone to produce proof to the
contrary. The dynamometer you see in all the videos is an AW Tractor tester I purchased
right here in West Liberty and mounted for Joe. The only exceptions are the two historic
Volvo and Leland engines Papp built in the early 70's that are shown in the introduction
video. When we became involved in 1980, these were gone and have never resurfaced.
When contracted to build these engines Tom & I each concentrated on our fields of
expertise to build and successfully run the Papp technology engine. Tom dealt with the
electronics while I worked on the mechanical engine. John was brought on to help with
the theory shortly afterwards.
Tom spent many weeks and months learning the secrets from Papp to control the timing
and excitation required to make the engine run. From knowledge learned from Papp, Tom
created sophisticated electronics to precisely control components and provide a unique
digital & RF signature to massage and energize the gases. Its true function was for the
most part completely hidden and non-reproducible, except by Tom or Papp.
“Papp provided me some last minute changes so the fuel could be mixed within the
cylinder. Over the years numerous engines were built by others, they tried to reproduce
the electronics. They thought they understood the magic, not one ever worked. Papp
said before he died it would take both Rohner’s to make it run."
Bob's mechanical design was no less elegant requiring some unique and sophisticated
design work. The key element was of course the sealed upper chambers and the
mounting of the electrodes and anode/cathode buckets.
"Having designed the complete mechanics of the engines, I can say without reservation
that there was no intake or exhaust and there was no way to modify the engine to allow
for this. This coupled with the original engine utilizing an alternator rather than a
generator rules out all known methods of driving this engine." In the videos you will
see this engine producing 800 ft-lbs of torque. You will see it producing over a hundred
horsepower at 850 rpm. You will see Papp scooting the motor around to prove the is no
huge motive force hidden somewhere.
Tom, John, and I watched this engine run many times, sometimes for hours on end. We
assured ourselves that there was no external connections driving the motor. Even if
there had been, there was nothing to drive. The starter would have been obvious. The
alternator would not function as a motor. There certainly was no internal room to install
any sort of drive mechanism. In fact, we completely tore the engine down after a test run
to correct a small mechanical malfunction and found nothing out of the ordinary.
Because the chambers were sealed, the engine would only go poof one time if any
attempt was made to run in on some flammable gas.
Beside ourselves, many, many other scientists, mechanics, investors and others
watched the engine run. Papp was willing to show it to about anyone. He was not willing
to part with it without receiving huge sums of cash. His paranoia was always sufficient to
scare any truly large investors. Investors offer royalty, inventors want cash. We could
argue the pros and cons of why he never completely revealed his secrets without ever
achieving a constructive answer.
We are always asked why we never pursued this project on our own after Papp died. The
answer is of course money. During this time period, oil and gas were cheap. There was
no large amount of pressure to develop new fuel replacements. Engine ideas such as
this were more of a curiosity than a necessity. Papp's actions while he was alive did not
serve to create a lot of confidence in investors. The idea of any sort of cold fusion
process was considered to be either stupid or starwars fiction by the scientific
community. The possible directions needed to be pursued in order to reach the final
solution could cost millions in research funds.
So here we are talking about a few million for research and development to try and find
an energy source that could free mankind from fossil fuels forever. Yesterday I read the
government gave an company eight million dollars to survey pilots about their comfort
level. Discovery showed a business receiving 10 million from the defense department to
make a noise gun. The establishment is dumping billions into stopgap biofuels that
have no future in the energy production field.
If venture capital wishes to remain on the sideline, I believe there is adequate proof that
the government need to get involved.
More later
Bob
